The following interview has been translated and edited for clarity and concision.
Q: I hear you are known for your nochocle throughout town?
A: One year ago, I stopped selling due to the Pandemic. Well, first due to the Pandemic, but then I was working in the field and I fell and hurt my spine.
The season is from the middle of April into part of May. To go and to produce nochocle, you must go very early in the morning. Otherwise, the tuna will get warm and it’ll open. I used to go at 5:30 AM, by 9 I was already coming home with a bowl of pulp. As I’m hurt, I can’t go any longer. But I used to sell a lot. My nochocle went to Oaxaca, Veracruz, the United States, to many places.
Q: Can you please explain the basics of how nochocle is produced?
A:You must go and cut the fruit. At the harvest of the tuna, the production begins. If you don’t harvest it well, it’s lost. You must see that the tuna is ready and ripe. My mother taught me when I was a child how to tell which tuna was ready. You can’t just pick whichever tuna. You must know the time of maturity.
We use a basket on the end of a long stick. Mangos are cut this way. So are tunas. So we have one that blocks the sun so that we can see the tuna well, and we have another one that reaches to the tuna. There in the field, you get rid of the spines. You must wash the fruits because a kind of little worm can come out, or little roots, whatever is stuck to the surface of the tuna. You collect them in a basket, return to the house, and there the process begins. With the pulp, you must start immediately because it will go bad. The pulp is filtered to collect the seeds.
We begin to work with it. To the pulp, we add a bit of pulque. It’s not a lot. One needs to know the quantity. The pulque, if I go to buy it, it’s already fermented. So instead, I go to the hills to look for it. That same day that I will prepare nochocle, I hike up to look for it.
If it’s too much pulque, we call it tepache. To sell that, it’s to sell another thing–like a kind of cider. The fermentation is started by the pulque. If you add the pulque today, the nochocle is in its full fermentation tomorrow. We make it and then it begins to bubble and expand.